Age of consent

I don't understand it either, personally I think that I'm mature enough to control my sex life, so why don't they?
I mean i'm currently 15 and Ive had sex. It wasn't traumatizing, I enjoyed it and yet its legal. It just doesn't seem fair

Age of Consent laws and laws about "exposing" "minors" to porn are all insipid bullshit. I'm 17, and while I've never had sex, I've watched TONS of porn and have been doing so since I was ~11. Heck, I even have a short list of trusted and most liked porn sites! (in my head, of course.) The funny thing is, I can now legally have sex here in Michigan, but it's illegal for anyone to "expose" me to porn and it's illegal for me to be in porn. After all, they don't want me thinking that boobs and vaginas actually EXIST!!!!

Not to mention, there's no need for laws on age of consent or child porn. These laws seem to mainly be in place because of a belief that "children" will be taken advantage of sexually, but what about adults that can easily be taken advantage of? Telling a "child" that they couldn't have consented to sex and therefore were raped, even though the "child" states confidently that it was consensual, does not help the "child" in any way. Obviously, coercion into sex, which people advocating age of consent laws seem to worry about, should be covered under the definition of rape.

I have noticed that your discussions and points cover a variety of things but they tend to avoid this one. I would like to know if there's anyway we could get more active about this topic as well because it is important. It affects our privacy, our freedoms, and I find this law to be a bit offensive. I have researched it quite alot and discovered different takes on the law and reasons that it is implemented. I understand that its taboo to talk about "sex" sometimes but this is one of the main reasons that I beleive in a push for youth rights.
I have looked up the terms and found out a variety of deffinitions, all of which are patronizing. They claim that teens and people under the age of 18 can't "understand" the consequences and implications that sexual activity has on their bodies and futures but that's not true. They claim that "the mentally disabled and minors (under 18) can't consent fully and must have an advocate. -They claim that children would get "taken advantage of" if the law was lowered.  But this is not so. It's true that there are some children that can't handle that responsibility and freedom, children who are very sheltered. But it is also true that age (from my expereince) doesn't and shouldn't  define most people.   
I know from experience that having a  healthy relationship with someone older isn't always a bad thing and although I have not been sexually active with this said person persay (because I love them and don't want them locked up) I have broken the law before and I don't feel "victimized" or "taken advantage of".

I want to someday live in a world where me and my partner can walk downtown holding hands, were I can introduce him to my mother (because I know that she'd love him if he were my age) and where I won't be judged just because I like someone whose a few years older then me. I want to at least help make that world possible and so that is why I beleive that we should take a stand and at least discuss this "taboo" idea of free love.

In my opinion, laws fixing an age of consent are unconstitutional under the 4th, 9th and 14th amendments as interpreted under Lawrence v. Texas. This is because some young people, if not most, are functionally mature enough to consent to sex. Therefore:
1. Young people have a fundamental right to sexual privacy, and that right bars government action against consensual youth sex under the same rationale as the Court's holding in Lawrence.
2. Young people have a fundamental right to sexual self-determination as a matter of international law, arising from the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights, and the peremptory norms of international law. All of these rights are protected from infringement by the Federal Government under the 9th Amendment, and from infringement by the states and local governments and their agents and assignees, including parents, under the 9th and 14th Amendments.
3. The application of different standards to youth and adults violates the Equal Protection Clause. Any deviation from equal protection as to age requires at least intermediate scrutiny, which requires that the action be strongly related to an important governmental interest. In my opinion, the present age-of-consent regime does not meet this standard.

In order to test at least the first theory, I have filed a petition for writ of prohibition in the Superior Court of California, County of Alameda, requiring California's attorney general to desist from prosecuting consensual sex between young people. I will keep you, as well as the other faction, updated on the progress of that work. Hopefully you will begin to see whose the "stagnation" really is in the coming weeks.

Does this make me evil? I mean , I noticed taht u support the deletion of the age of concent law , but having an actual 'hebophile ' here may make you change your minds or think that I am a slavering dog awaiting so that I could do creepy thngs. ..If that were the case , would I bother wasting my time working for a better system ? No,Id be waiting for girls to hit 18 so taht i could snatch em up ,or worse .Im sorry , its just that the other groups dont even support age of concent lowering ,or they just drowned it in rhetotic garbage  so I was afriad of how you might react....

I guess i should shut up while Iam a head shouldnt I?

Last edited by Simon (05-05-2011 19:17:28)

There might be a concern that younger women would be subject to exploitation or undue influence because of the aged-based power dynamics inherent in adultism. With youth liberation this power dynamic will break down and the sexual liberation of young women will be achieved. In the meantime, youth rights will be more effectually advocated by refraining from associating with people perceived as sexually deviant, except as their champions and devil's advocated.

Got a case number on your writ svendlarose?

This is good reading:

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? … =4,114,129

http://scholar.google.com/scholar_case? … =4,114,129