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The quick setup of the new site unfortunately illustrates Svag's incompetence, as well as the dubiousness of his claim that he was working 20 hours a week on ASFAR matters. But on a brighter note, it empowers those of us actually committed to ASFAR's success in several ways. Firstly, it deprives Svag of much of his "leverage" by denying him control over the ASFAR website. Once we re-assert control over the original domain, we'll be in the indisputably upper position. Secondly, it illustrates that the new staff is better able to manage these affairs than the previous administration was, which we can all be thankful for.

Where's the "somewhat" option?

Which is sad, considering that we predate NYRA.

I'm not even sure we can retrieve the content from the old forum. The index was archived, but individual forum contents weren't, and I'm not sure if there were any preservation attempts on the part of Svag or Susan. I never posted on that forum myself.

I agree; maybe David S-J would have DB copies.

Nothing was lost. Everything is where it was before. I simply took down the forums because there weren't enough people interested to justify the time involved in moderating and supervising them. I will put them back up on the main (youthliberation.org) site if and when enough interest returns to justify such a judgment call.

The forums were taken down because they were overrun by SPAM, which required moderator attention to diminish and ultimately defeat. The process of deleting automatically added members was time-consuming enough to justify bringing down the forum TWICE.

There is plenty of interest in an ASFAR forum. You could have had the old one on the old site to do more and better than you're doing here if you would simply admit that the parliamentary rules are binding and that acts in violation of them are invalid and ineffectual. This would also allow you to remove me properly and without delay, and to hold an actual Board meeting to ratify all the great ideas your central committee has cooked up for ASFAR.

I thank you for removing Lindsay's ban. It would speak poorly to future staff about the way ASFAR receives its distinguished (some-would-say-soon-to-be-)past officers to let a web design associate silence the person who is principally responsible for the present existence of ASFAR (which you know I am). Keeping an organization alive from the exodus of 2006 to your arrival was not an easy task.

I now digress. What do you gain from the continuation of this dispute? We may enter the New Year with no Board, no leadership in key workplan areas and no plan for continuity of any operations other than the maintenance of a website BY EITHER SIDE. This game of running away from a nasty parliamentary fight and starting back where I started in 2006 is not good for ASFAR or anyone involved in it, and I really wish you would come back, if only to observe the formalities and give me a proper send-off that won't sabotage my ability to build myself a proper scientific and/or legal platform from which to advocate youth rights.